Second (parliamentary procedure)

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In deliberative bodies a second to a proposed motion is an indication that there is at least one person besides the mover that is interested in seeing the motion come before the meeting. It does not necessarily indicate that the seconder favors the motion.

Purpose

The purpose of requiring a second is to prevent time being wasted by the assembly's having to dispose of a motion that only one person wants to see introduced.^[1] Hearing a second to a motion is guidance to the chair that he should state the question on the motion, thereby placing it before the assembly.^[2] It does not necessarily indicate that the seconder favors the motion.^[2]

Procedure

The seconder may state "I second the motion" or "second" without first being recognized by the chair. He may remain seated but in larger assemblies, especially in those where nonmembers may be seated in the hall, the seconder should stand.^[1] After hearing a second, the chair then states the question and the motion is placed before the assembly for discussion.

When no second is made

After a motion is proposed, if the motion requires a second and none is immediately offered, the chair of the body will usually ask, "Is there a second?"^[1] If no second is obtained within a few moments of proposing the motion, then the motion is not considered by the assembly, and is treated as though it was never offered (although it is recorded in the minutes).^[3] Such a motion may be introduced again at any later time.^[4]

If a motion which requires a second does not receive one, but is discussed or voted on anyway, it is too late to object to the motion on the grounds that a second was not offered. This is because the purpose of the second has been fulfilled: the assembly is obviously willing to consider the motion.^[5]

A point of order that a motion is not in order for lack of a second can only be made before any discussion or vote has taken place on the motion.^[5]

When a second is not necessary

in a small board or a committee.^[1]
for motions made by direction of a board or appointed committee.^[2]
once debate has begun on a motion.^[5]
for certain procedural motions.

Withdrawal of a second

A second may be withdrawn if the motion is amended by the maker of the motion before it has been stated by the chair.^[6] Demeter's Manual states, "The seconder can also withdraw his second after the Chair has stated the question and before it is voted on, if the body permits it either by silent consent, or by majority vote if put to a formal vote."^[7]

Parliamentary authorities that discourage seconds

Ray Keesey states, "Motions need not be seconded. The requirement of a second is largely a waste of time. What member is so destitute of friends that he can't find one willing to second his motion? The traditional justification for requiring a second is that at least two members would support a motion to justify its consideration. ... There is nothing essentially wrong with the practice of seconding. It is simply unnecessary.^[8]
Tilson's Manual advises against the use of seconds, stating, "It would seem that nothing could be more nearly useless and unnecessary than for some identified voice from the midst of the assembly to boom out, 'I second it'."^[9]

Legislative bodies

Mason's Manual states that "Parliamentary practice in American governmental bodies does not require seconds to motions, and in Parliament itself, where the practice of seconding motions originated, they have not been required for more than a century."^[10]

Notes and references

1 2 3 4 Robert, Henry M.; et al. (2011). Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised (11th ed.). Philadelphia, PA: Da Capo Press. p. 35. ISBN 978-0-306-82020-5.
1 2 3 Robert 2011, p. 36
↑ Robert 2011, p. 469
↑ Robert 2011, p. 337
1 2 3 Robert 2011, p. 37
↑ Robert 2011, p. 40
↑ Demeter, George (1969). Demeter's Manual of Parliamentary Law and Procedure, Blue Book, p. 146
↑ Keesey, Ray E. (1974). Modern Parliamentary Procedure. p. 31. ISBN 0-395-19397-4.
↑ Tilson, John Q. (1948). Tilson's Manual. p. 95.
↑ National Conference of State Legislatures (2000). Mason's Manual of Legislative Procedure

Parliamentary procedure

Major concepts	History of parliamentary procedure Principles of parliamentary procedure Deliberative assembly Committee Session Quorum Chair Floor Recognition Motion Second Debate Main motion Order of business Minutes Voting methods in deliberative assemblies Majority Unanimous consent

Subsidiary motions	Postpone indefinitely Amend Commit Postpone to a certain time Limit or extend limits of debate Previous question Cloture Lay on the table

Privileged motions	Call for the orders of the day Raise a question of privilege Recess Adjourn Fix the time to which to adjourn

Incidental motions	Point of order Appeal Suspend the rules Objection to the consideration of a question Division of a question Consideration by paragraph or seriatim Division of the assembly Motions relating to methods of voting and the polls Motions relating to nominations Request to be excused from a duty Requests and inquiries (Parliamentary inquiry, Request for information, Request for permission to withdraw or modify a motion, Request to read papers, Request for any other privilege)

Motions that bring a question again before the assembly	Take from the table Rescind, repeal, annul or amend something previously adopted Discharge a committee Reconsider

Legislative procedures	Call of the house Hoist Motion to pass on

Disciplinary procedures	Censure Declare the chair vacant Impeach Naming

Parliamentary authorities	Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised (RONR) The Standard Code of Parliamentary Procedure (TSC or Sturgis) Demeter's Manual of Parliamentary Law and Procedure Riddick's Rules of Procedure Mason's Manual of Legislative Procedure Erskine May: Parliamentary Practice Bourinot's Rules of Order Beauchesne's Parliamentary Rules and Forms Morin code

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