United States at the Rugby World Cup
The United States has played in all but one Rugby World Cup since the inaugural tournament in 1987. The USA is the second strongest national rugby side in North America, and the third strongest in the Americas after Argentina and Canada.
Summary
Nation | Number of appearances | First appearance | Most recent appearance | Streak | Best result |
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United States | 7 | 1987 | 2015 | 5 | One win (1987, 2003, 2011) |
Summary of results by tournament
Year | Round | Played | Won | Lost | Pts For | Against | Pts Diff | |
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1987 | Pool | 3 | 1 | 2 | 39 | 99 | –60 | |
1991 | Pool | 3 | 0 | 3 | 24 | 113 | –89 | |
1995 | (Did not qualify) | |||||||
1999 | Pool | 3 | 0 | 3 | 52 | 135 | –83 | |
2003 | Pool | 4 | 1 | 3 | 86 | 125 | –39 | |
2007 | Pool | 4 | 0 | 4 | 61 | 142 | –81 | |
2011 | Pool | 4 | 1 | 3 | 38 | 122 | –84 | |
2015 | Pool | 4 | 0 | 4 | 50 | 156 | –106 | |
Total | – | 25 | 3 | 22 | 350 | 892 | ||
Summary of results by opponent
Against | Played | Won | Lost | Drawn | Win % |
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New Zealand | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Australia | 3 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
South Africa | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
England | 3 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
France | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Scotland | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
Ireland | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
Fiji | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Samoa | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
Italy | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
Tonga | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Romania | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Japan | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 67 |
Russia | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 100 |
Total | 25 | 3 | 22 | 0 | 12% |
Notes:
- Results current through end of 2015 RWC.
- Opposing teams are listed from most successful to least successful in the RWC.
- The US has never played Wales, Argentina or Canada in a RWC, even though those 3 teams have played in every RWC.
Qualifying
The U.S. has qualified for every World Cup, except for the 1995 tournament.
RWC | Record | Defeated | Lost to | Qualifying method |
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1987 | — | No qualifying competition; all 16 participating nations were invited. | ||
1991 | 1–3 | Canada (14–12) | Argentina (6–13, 6–23); Canada (3–21) | Finished third of three teams in Americas qualifying. |
1995 | 1–2 | Bermuda (60–3) | Argentina (22–28, 11–16) | Failed to qualify: Lost to Argentina 44–33 in a two-game series. |
1999 | 1–2 | Uruguay (21–16) | Argentina (24–52); Canada (14–31) | Finished third in Americas qualifying by defeating Uruguay 21–16. |
2003 | 2–4 | Uruguay (28–24); Chile (35–22) | Canada (9–26, 13–36); Chile (13–21); Uruguay (9–10) | Finished ahead of Chile to qualify for the repechage; Defeated Spain 120–26 in a two-game series in the repechage. |
2007 | 3–1 | Uruguay (42–13, 33–7); Barbados (91–0) | Canada (7–56) | Defeated Uruguay 75–20 in a two-game series. |
2011 | 3–1 | Uruguay (27–22, 27–6); Canada (12–6) | Canada (18–41) | Defeated Uruguay 54–28 in a two-game series. |
2015 | 1–2–1 | Uruguay (32–13) | Canada (9–27, 11–13) | Defeated Uruguay 59–40 in a two-game series. |
Opponent | Played | Won | Lost | Percent |
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Canada | 10 | 2 | 8 | 20% |
Uruguay | 8 | 7 | 1 | 88% |
Argentina | 5 | 0 | 5 | 0% |
Chile | 2 | 1 | 1 | 50% |
Rugby World Cup Hosting
So far the USA has not hosted any Rugby World Cup games, and no Rugby World Cups have been held in the Americas. The United States is, however, interested in pursuing a bid, possibly a joint bid with Canada, to host the 2023 Rugby World Cup or the 2027 Rugby World Cup.[1]
Team RWC records
- Most points scored in a single tournament: 86 (2003)
- Most points scored in a single match: 39 (39-26 vs. Japan in 2003)
- Largest margin of victory: 13 (39-26 vs. Japan in 2003)
Player RWC records
Career
Updated: October 12, 2015. |
Updated: October 12, 2015. |
Updated: October 12, 2015. |
Tries Scored
The following table shows all U.S. players that have scored two or more tries in their World Cup career, plus all active players who have scored at least one World Cup try.
Player | Tries | 1987 | 1991 | 1995* | 1999 | 2003 | 2007 | 2011 | 2015 |
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Chris Wyles | 4 | 1 | 1 | 2 | |||||
Takudzwa Ngwenya | 3 | 2 | 1 | ||||||
Kort Schubert | 3 | 3 | |||||||
Ray Nelson | 3 | 2 | 1 | ||||||
Louis Stanfill | 2 | 2 | |||||||
Mike Hercus | 2 | 2 | |||||||
Riaan van Zyl | 2 | 2 | |||||||
Mike Purcell | 2 | 2 | |||||||
Titi Lamositele | 1 | 1 | |||||||
Chris Baumann | 1 | 1 | |||||||
Mike Petri | 1 | 1 | |||||||
Mate Moeakiola | 1 | 1 | |||||||
Note: The U.S. failed to qualify for the 1995 Rugby World Cup.
- Most penalties scored: Mike Hercus, 15 (2003 & 2007)
Single tournament
- Most points in a single tournament: Mike Hercus, 51 (2003)
- Most tries in a single tournament: Kort Schubert, 3 (2003)
Individual tournaments: 1987 to present
1987 Rugby World Cup
Pool 1 games -
Team | P | W | D | L | PF | PA | Pts |
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Australia | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 108 | 41 | 6 |
England | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 100 | 32 | 4 |
United States | 3 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 39 | 99 | 2 |
Japan | 3 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 48 | 123 | 0 |
1987-05-24 |
Japan | 18 – 21 | United States |
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Tries: Taumoefolau (2) Yoshinaga Pen: Yoshinaga Kutsuki |
Tries: Nelson Purcell Lambert Con: Nelson (3) Pen: Nelson |
1987-05-31 |
Australia | 47 – 12 | United States |
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Tries: Leeds (2) Penalty try Campese Smith Slack Papworth Codey Con: Lynagh (6) Pen: Lynagh |
Try: Nelson Con: Nelson Pen: Nelson Drop: Horton |
1987-06-03 |
England | 34 – 6 | United States |
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Tries: Winterbottom (2) Harrison Dooley Con: Webb (3) Pen: Webb (4) |
Try: Purcell Con: Nelson |
1991 Rugby World Cup
Pool A games -
Team Won Drawn Lost For Against Points New Zealand 3 0 0 95 39 9 England 2 0 1 85 33 7 Italy 1 0 2 57 76 5 United States 0 0 3 24 113 3
1991-10-05 |
Italy | 30 – 9 | United States |
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Tries: Barba, Francescato, Vaccari, Gaetaniello Con: Dominguez (4) Pen: Dominguez (2) |
Tries: Swords Con: Williams Pen: Williams |
1991-10-08 |
New Zealand | 46 – 6 | United States |
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Tries: Wright (3), Earl, Purvis, Timu, Tuigamala, Innes Con: Preston (4) Pen: Preston (2) |
Pen: Williams (2) |
1991-10-11 |
England | 37 – 9 | United States |
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Tries: Underwood (2), Carling, Skinner, Heslop Con: Hodgkinson (4) Pen: Hodgkinson (3) |
Tries: Nelson Con: Williams Pen: Williams |
1995 Rugby World Cup
Did not qualify.
The Americas were allotted only two teams for the 1995 tournament. Canada automatically qualified, by virtue of reaching the quarterfinals of the 1991 tournament. Only 1 place remained for the Americas qualifying, to be decided by the winner of the home-and-away series between the US and Argentina (the winner of the Americas South bracket) in 1994. In that series, the US lost their home match 22-28, and also lost their away match 11-16. With the 2-0 record and 44-33 aggregate score, Argentina secured the final qualifying spot for the Americas.
1999 Rugby World Cup
Pool 5 games -
Team Won Drawn Lost For Against Points Australia 3 0 0 135 31 6 Ireland 2 0 1 100 45 4 Romania 1 0 2 50 126 2 United States 0 0 3 52 135 0
1999-10-02 |
Ireland | 53 – 8 | United States |
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Tries: Keith Wood (4), Eric Elwood (2), Brian O'Driscoll, Justin Bishop Con: David Humphreys (4) Pen: David Humphreys (2) |
Tries: Kevin Dalzell Pen: Kevin Dalzell |
1999-10-09 |
United States | 25 – 27 | Romania |
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Tries: Kurt Shuman, Brian Hightower, Dan Lyle Con: Kevin Dalzell (2) Pen: Kevin Dalzell (2) |
Tries: Adrian Petrache, Gheorghe Solomie, Tudor Constantin Con: Petre Mitu (2) Pen: Petre Mitu |
1999-10-14 |
Australia | 55–19 | United States |
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Tries: Scott Staniforth (2), Chris Latham, Chris Whitaker, Michael Foley, Matthew Burke, Stephen Larkham, Tiaan Straaus Con: Matthew Burke (5), Joe Roff Pen: Matthew Burke |
Tries: Juan Grobler Con: Kevin Dalzell Pen: Kevin Dalzell (4) |
2003 Rugby World Cup
Team | Won | Drawn | Lost | For | Against | BP | Points |
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France | 4 | 0 | 0 | 204 | 70 | 4 | 20 |
Scotland | 3 | 0 | 1 | 102 | 97 | 2 | 14 |
Fiji | 2 | 0 | 2 | 98 | 114 | 2 | 10 |
United States | 1 | 0 | 3 | 86 | 125 | 2 | 6 |
Japan | 0 | 0 | 4 | 79 | 163 | 0 | 0 |
2003-10-15 |
Fiji | 19 – 18 | United States |
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Tries: Naevo Con: Little Pen: Little (4) |
Tries: van Zyl, Schubert Con: Hercus Pen: Hercus (2) |
2003-10-20 |
Scotland | 39 – 15 | United States |
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Tries: Danielli (2), Kerr, Townsend, Paterson Con: Paterson (4) Pen: Paterson (2) |
Pen: Hercus (5) |
2003-10-27 |
Japan | 26 – 39 | United States |
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Tries: Kurihara, Ohata Con: Kurihara (2) Pen: Kurihara (4) |
Tries: Hercus, Eloff, Schubert, van Zyl, Khasigian Con: Hercus (4) Pen: Hercus (2) |
2003-10-31 |
France | 41 – 14 | United States |
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Tries: Liebenberg (3), Poux, Bru Con: Merceron (2) Pen: Merceron (3) Drop: Yachvili |
Tries: Hercus, Schubert Con: Hercus (2) |
Mike Hercus was the leading points scorer for the US - and 7th leading scorer among all players - with 51 points (2 tries, 9 penalties, 7 conversions).
2007 Rugby World Cup
Pool A games -
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8 September 2007 18:00 |
England | 28 – 10 | United States |
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Tries: Robinson 35' m Barkley 40+' c Rees 49' c Con: Barkley (2/3) Pen: Barkley (3/3) 7', 22', 31' |
Report | Tries: Moeakiola 74' c Con: Hercus (1/1) Pen: Hercus (1/1) 9' |
12 September 2007 14:00 |
United States | 15 – 25 | Tonga |
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Tries: MacDonald 47' m Stanfill 67' c Con: Hercus (1/2) Pen: Hercus (1/2) 33' |
Report | Tries: Maka 2' c Vaka 59' m Vaki 70' c Con: Hola (2/3) Pen: Hola (2/2) 7', 26' |
26 September 2007 20:00 |
Samoa | 25 – 21 | United States |
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Tries: Fa'atau 5' m Tuilagi 9' c Thompson 37' c Con: Crichton (2/3) Pen: Crichton (2/2) 30', 72' |
Report | Tries: Ngwenya 53' c Stanfill 79' m Con: Hercus (1/2) Pen: Hercus (3/4) 32', 65', 75' |
30 September 2007 20:00 |
South Africa | 64 – 15 | United States |
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Tries: Burger 10' c Steyn 28' c Habana (2) 35' c, 42' m van der Linde 48' c du Preez 54' c Fourie (2) 64' c, 73' c Smith 77' c Con: Montgomery (6/7) James (2/2) Pen: Montgomery (1/1) 17' |
Report | Tries: Ngwenya 39' c Wyles 51' m Con: Hercus (1/2) Pen: Hercus (1/1) 20' |
2007 Squad:
Forwards: Blake Burdette, Owen Lentz, Mike MacDonald, Matekitonga Moeakiola, Chris Osentowski, Jonathan Vitale, Luke Gross, Mike Mangan, Hayden Mexted, Alec Parker, Mark Aylor, Inaki Basauri, Todd Clever, Fifita Mounga, Louis Stanfill, Henry Bloomfield, Dan Payne
Backs: Chad Erskine, Mike Petri, Mike Hercus (C), Valenese Malifa, Philip Eloff, Vahafolau Esikia, Thretton Palamo, Albert Tuipulotu, Paul Emerick, Takudzwa Ngwenya, Salesi Sika, Francois Viljoen, Chris Wyles
Head Coach: Peter Thorburn
In the 2007 Rugby World Cup, the US joined England, Samoa, South Africa and Tonga in Pool A. The Eagles, ranked 13th in the world standings, lost all 4 games in Pool A, scoring 1 bonus point in the game against Samoa. Coached by New Zealander Peter Thorburn, the Eagles started off with tough match against the defending world champions England, losing 28–10. The US was then beaten by Tonga 25–15, lost to Samoa 25 – 21, and lost their final match to highly favored South Africa 64 – 15. The Eagles, however, had a major highlight in the South Africa match. After an interception and a pair of passes, Takudzwa Ngwenya sped down the sideline and outran Bryan Habana, arguably the fastest man in world rugby, to score a try that received Try of the Year honors at the 2007 IRB Awards.
2011 Rugby World Cup
Team |
Pld | W | D | L | TF | PF | PA | +/− | BP | Pts |
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Ireland | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 15 | 135 | 34 | +101 | 1 | 17 |
Australia | 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 25 | 173 | 48 | +125 | 3 | 15 |
Italy | 4 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 13 | 92 | 95 | −3 | 2 | 10 |
United States | 4 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 4 | 38 | 122 | −84 | 0 | 4 |
Russia | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 8 | 57 | 196 | −139 | 1 | 1 |
11 September 2011 | Ireland | 22–10 | United States | Stadium Taranaki, New Plymouth |
15 September 2011 | Russia | 6–13 | United States | Stadium Taranaki, New Plymouth |
23 September 2011 | Australia | 67–5 | United States | Regional Stadium, Wellington |
27 September 2011 | Italy | 27–10 | United States | Trafalgar Park, Nelson |
Chris Wyles was the USA's leading scorer of the 2011 tournament with 18 points (1 try, 3 penalties, 2 conversions).
Mike Petri, Paul Emerick, and JJ Gagiano each scored 5 points (1 try) for the US.
30 Man Squad:
- Hooker: Chris Biller, Phil Thiel, Brian McClenahan
- Prop: Mike MacDonald, Mate Moeakiola, Shawn Pittman, Eric Fry
- Lock: Hayden Smith, John van der Giessen
- Loose: Todd Clever (c), Louis Stanfill, Nic Johnson, Scott LaValla, Patrick Danahy, JJ Gagiano, Inaki Basauri
- Scrumhalf: Mike Petri, Tim Usasz
- Flyhalf: Roland Suniula, Nese Malifa
- Center: Andrew Suniula, Paul Emerick, Tai Enosa, Junior Sifa
- Wing: Takudzwa Ngwyenya, James Paterson, Kevin Swiryn, Colin Hawley
- Fullback: Chris Wyles, Blaine Scully
The Eagles showed tremendous fight and power in their World Cup opening match against Ireland. The Irish came out strong but the Eagles were stiff in defense. The Irish suffered from poor goal kicking and were only able to gain a 3–0 lead before finally scoring their first try at the 39' mark to take a 10-0 half-time lead. The Irish came out more ready to play in the second half but still ran into stiff Eagles defense. Ultimately the Irish scored two more tries to give a final tally of 22 points. The Eagles succeeded in frustrating Irish expectations to gain a bonus point with a full strength squad and managed to post 10 points led by an interception try on full-time by Paul Emerick.[2]
The Eagles came into the World Cup with their measuring mark for success as being a win over Russia. The Eagles did not disappoint. Russia leaped out to an early 3–0 lead after a penalty goal from inside the 22 set up by a block on a Mike Petri box kick. The Americans took a 10–3 lead into the half after a break by Andrew Suniula set up a try for Mike Petri. The kicking duty fell upon Chris Wyles who capitalized on his first kick, a deep strike in poor conditions from the 10 meter line. Wyles was also successful on a conversion and with his last attempt at goal. He did, however, miss 3 kicks at goal and a drop goal. Russia would land once more on the board to snatch a bonus point from the match but fell to the final tally of USA 13–6 Russia.[3] Both Wyles and Mike MacDonald had amazing matches as McDonald scooped up the man of the match accolades.[4] The Eagles were absolutely dominant at the lineout winning 7 of Russia's 13 throws and winning all 12 of their own throws.[5] The win elevated the Eagles back up to 17th in the IRB rankings and dropped Russia one spot to 21st.
For their third match the Eagles trotted out a squad with 14 changes from the one that met Russia, ensuring that each player on the roster received a cap in the tournament. Australia got on the board early with tries at the 7- and 10-minute marks, but the Eagles answered with a JJ Gagiano try at the 22nd minute that cut the deficit to 10–5. Australia quickly responded with two more tries to take a 22–5 lead into the half along with clinching a bonus point. In the second half the Wallabies jumped on the Eagles leading to the final result of 67–5. This was the worst defeat a US team has ever suffered to Australia.[6]
The final match saw the Eagles playing for a 3rd-place finish in Pool C and an automatic qualification into the 2015 Rugby World Cup. The Eagles faced Italy (the Azzurri) and the scoring began early by the Azzurri, but the Eagles struck back with a Chris Wyles try and conversion to level the match 7-7. The Italians struck quickly with their second try, and scored their third try on the stroke of halftime to lead 20-10 at the half. Italy focused their second-half efforts on scoring a fourth try and the bonus point. The US second-half defense held for 25 minutes, but after tremendous pressure by the Italian scrum - which Italy dominated all match - the Azzurri got their fourth try and the bonus point in the 65th minute. That try and conversion were the only points for the Azzurri in the second half.[7] The defeat marked the end of the 2011 Rugby World Cup and the 2011 season for the Eagles.
2015 Rugby World Cup
Team |
Pld | W | D | L | TF | PF | PA | +/− | BP | Pts |
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South Africa | 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 23 | 176 | 56 | +120 | 4 | 16 |
Scotland | 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 14 | 136 | 93 | +43 | 2 | 14 |
Japan | 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 9 | 98 | 100 | –2 | 0 | 12 |
Samoa | 4 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 7 | 69 | 124 | –55 | 2 | 6 |
United States | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 5 | 50 | 156 | –106 | 0 | 0 |
20 September 2015 | Samoa | 25–16 | United States | Brighton Community Stadium, Brighton |
27 September 2015 | Scotland | 39–16 | United States | Elland Road, Leeds |
7 October 2015 | South Africa | 64–0 | United States | Olympic Stadium, London |
11 October 2015 | United States | 18–28 | Japan | Kingsholm, Gloucester |
U.S. summer preparations for the World Cup included four matches at the 2015 Pacific Nations Cup plus two additional World Cup warm-up matches. The U.S. earned three wins and three losses over these matches, with wins against Canada (twice) and Japan.
At the World Cup, the U.S. lost its first match against Samoa 16–25. The Eagles suffered from ill discipline, committing 14 penalties (compared to 7 for Samoa); and from poor tackling, with a 79% tackle success rate and 29 missed tackles, (compared to Samoa's 86% tackle rate and 19 missed tackles).[8]
The team entered World Cup play with the highest hopes in years. The pool draw placed the Eagles alongside Japan, a team they had beaten earlier in the summer, Samoa, a team they've played well in the past, and Scotland. Scotland, though a tier 1 nation, had struggled in recent years. The last team was South Africa, a team that lost its first match of the World Cup to Japan. In their opening match against Samoa, the United States trailed 14-8 at the half, and ultimately fell 25-16, after finding tremendous difficulties at the lineout and in the scrum.[9]
Carrying a tough 0-1 start into the team's second match, the Eagles made history by claiming a first ever halftime lead over a tier 1 nation (13-6),[10] on the back of a strong showing in the scrum. The second half was less kind, as Scotland quickly overcame the deficit and pushed the final score well out of reach: Scotland 37, USA 16.[11]
With a winless campaign becoming a real possibility, the coaching staff chose a roster that drastically differed from the starters in the first two matches.[12][13] Against South Africa, the Eagles struggled early and were dominated in the scrum, but kept the match close at the break with South Africa holding a 14 point lead. In the second half, the Springboks blew the match open, running the match to 64-0. The defeat is the fifth largest in USA Rugby history and the largest in a World Cup.[14]
Category | Player | Total | Rank |
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Carries | Samu Manoa | 57 | 2nd |
Carries over the gain line | Samu Manoa | 26 | 4th |
Turnovers made | Andrew Durutalo | 6 | 8th |
Penalties scored | AJ MacGinty | 7 | 9th |
Points scored | AJ MacGinty | 25 | 17th |
Tackles made | Alastair McFarland | 37 | — |
Source: World Rugby Rank is as of the end of the pool stages, and does not include the knockout rounds.
References
- Davies, Gerald (2004) The History of the Rugby World Cup (Sanctuary Publishing Ltd, (ISBN 1-86074-602-0)
- Farr-Jones, Nick, (2003). Story of the Rugby World Cup, Australian Post Corporation, (ISBN 0-642-36811-2)
- ↑ United States contemplating bid for 2023 Rugby World Cup
- ↑ "Irish in Battle with Eagles, but Win". Rugbymag.com. September 11, 2011. Retrieved October 17, 2011.
- ↑ "USA Edges Russia in World Cup". Rugbymag.com. September 15, 2011. Retrieved October 17, 2011.
- ↑ "More than One Hero". Rugbymag.com. September 15, 2011. Retrieved October 17, 2011.
- ↑ "Rugby Union – ESPN Scrum – Russia v United States of America at New Plymouth, Sep 15, 2011". ESPN Scrum. Retrieved October 17, 2011.
- ↑ "Wallabies Much Too Much for Eagles". Rugbymag.com. September 23, 2011. Retrieved October 17, 2011.
- ↑ "USA Brave in 27–10 Loss to Italy". Rugbymag.com. September 27, 2011. Retrieved October 17, 2011.
- ↑ Samoa vs United States, ESPN Scrum. Accessed 20 September 2015.
- ↑ "USA come up just short against Samoa", ESPN UK, September 20, 2015.
- ↑ "Scotland beat the USA 39-16 to go top of Pool B", SkySports.net, September 27, 2015.
- ↑ "Scotland find second wind to down Eagles", ESPN UK, September 27, 2015.
- ↑ "Green Lineup Selected for Springboks", RugbyToday.com, October 5, 2015.
- ↑ "Cliff Notes: Digesting the Shutout", Pat Clifton, October 8, 2015.
- ↑ "Second Half Sees USA to Historic Loss", Pat Clifton, October 7, 2015.
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